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John Carnegie is the first New Zealander to sit on the World Energy Council board after his appointment last month.
The council has close to 100 member countries - and they include the largest energy-producing and energy-consuming nations. There are 3000 member organisations.
They include the likes of the State Grid company in China, the California Independent System Operator - the state's equivalent to Transpower - and recently Boeing signed up.
Some governments are in there - but New Zealand's is not. Business NZ's Energy Council is a member in this country and they represent major electricity companies from generators like Meridian Energy to lines companies like Auckland's Vector.
John is a former head of the New Zealand Energy Council and is now chairing the World Energy Council's finance committee.
In his day job, he is the chief executive of Energy Resources Aotearoa - previously known as the Petroleum Exploration and Production Association or PEPANZ - the oil and gas sector lobbyists.
John talks to Kathryn about the difficult decisions that we face as we go into the energy transition.
